For some time now I’ve privately questioned my choice of handle here on Substack. On some level, I can’t help but feel like an online chef who’s constantly going on about pastries.
But this Wednesday marked the first pies baked by the Apple Pie family for the season. In accordance with established custom, the pies were baked as a trio. The general consensus is that we had forgotten how good they were.
To give a sense of this, our toddler is going through a rough patch with weaning. That afternoon our baby was crying and asking for nursing inconsolably until I walked him around and tried feeding him other things to distract him, eventually offering him a slice of the pie his brothers had been eating while he was in the other room. I had other tasks, so I couldn’t feed him very quickly. But this child who can barely talk, and previously couldn’t even use a fork, told me “Thanks Dad” over and again as he awkwardly scraped and prodded the pie into his mouth. Eating with a utensil was definitely unfamiliar, but by the next morning he had it well in hand for his next slice, with breastfeeding now forgotten.
So all right then. I’m not particularly good at baking, I don’t follow cooking blogs or even own a single cook book. But this is an undeniable fact of our existence: For us, apple pie is a Significant Thing.
Such Has It Always Been
It isn’t new for humans to sacralize fruit. The Biblical tree of knowledge has been variously argued to have been apple, fig, or (my preference) pomegranate. The inspiration of Dionysius came from cultivated grapes. The Buddha gained enlightenment sitting beneath a fig tree. The Goddess Iðunn ensures her compatriots’ immortality with golden apples; Xi Wang Mu does the same, but with peaches.
So pick a random human, any random human who lived some time from a hundred thousand years ago to the present day. Chances are, they probably see fruit as somehow special. Maybe it’s the color that stands out against the dark foliage, where ripe morsels dangle like jewels in the trees. Maybe it’s the rich aroma that stirs memories, or maybe the natural sweetness prompts this sense of reverence.
I’m trained as a scientist, so to me, fruit symbolizes something more abstract: multi-layered, cross-species cooperation. Flowering plants usually don’t fertilize themselves, but depend on insects to bring pollen from one plant to another. And fruit-bearing trees don’t generally propagate on their own, but rather have evolved to attract birds and other creatures to carry their seeds far and wide. We animals depend on plants for food, but the life cycle of fruit trees is deeply entwined with us.
All of this—beauty, rejuvination, interconnectedness—tug at something in the human psyche that seems naturally to resonate with a primordial significance. We may argue about whether fruit is genuinely sacred, but it definitely feels that way. So if I propose a moral system like Ethica Pomi that takes the cultivation, processing, and ritual serving of fruit as its foundation, even if it’s meant as a joke… is it really?
At this point, if you are a utilitarian, you’ll probably just want to stop reading this; I’d be curious about what you think of this other essay here. The point of Ethica Pomi was really just to lampoon utilitarianism by highlighting its inherent weaknesses. But if we look at morality through the lens of the sacred, I really wonder, what does this say about an ethical system like utilitarianism that tries to sacralize pleasure?
How does the shared consciousness of our species respond to hedonism? Writers across history have curled their lips on the wanton licentiousness of their compatriots. For instance, Sallust:
To gratify appetite, they sought for every kind of production by land and by sea; they slept before there was any inclination for sleep; they no longer waited to feel hunger, thirst, cold, or fatigue, but anticipated them all by luxurious indulgence. Such propensities drove the youth, when their patrimonies were exhausted, to criminal practices; for their minds, impregnated with evil habits, could not easily abstain from gratifying their passions, and were thus the more inordinately devoted in every way to rapacity and extravagance.1
Or more succinctly, Livy:
The state is suffering from two opposite vices, avarice and luxury; two plagues which, in the past, have been the ruin of every great empire.2
Pleasure itself is difficult to regard as sacred. Where thinkers like Emmanual Kant give us lines like, “Two things fill the mind with ever new and increasing admiration and awe… the starry heavens above me and the moral law within me,” Jeremy Bentham enthrones hedonism, subjugating us beneath “two sovereign masters, pain and pleasure… On the one hand the standard of right and wrong, on the other the chain of causes and effects, are fastened to their throne.”
I absolutely don’t mean to knock down utilitarianism with this kind of discussion. If utilitarianism were a genuine description of moral reality, then any ugliness inherent to it, any profaneness we perceived by the elevation of mere hedonism to a moral good, would simply be a hurdle for us to overcome. We would just have to get used to it if utilitarianism (somehow) had been shown to be right.
But utilitarianism has always been a system ultimately based on intuition, and it’s jarring to note how utilitarianism is so totally disconnected with anything recognizable as sacred to human beings. Jonathan Haidt reported early on how morality contains a sacred dimension for conservatives;3 shortly thereafter, Jesse Graham found liberals also show a moral concern for sanctity.4 Maybe they’re wrong, and sacredness has no place in morality—but then, maybe they’re wrong about something bigger, and morality has no place in reality! That’s just the risk you run, being an ethicist.
Ten Moral Systems, Ranked
So revisiting the question of ranking moral systems, my current ranking of the following options now looks like this:
Moral Agnosticism: I’m not sure, I just like being brave, sincere, dutiful, and also nice
Jonathan Haidt’s Moral Foundations
“Always do what authorities tell you, or else, they’ll punish you”
“I just follow my moral intuitions; I’m really never wrong”
“My ingroup is always right. The outgroup must be stopped by any means”
Someday perhaps I’ll explain why Kantianism gets such a low ranking at #6, why I rank Ethica Pomi higher than Haidt’s empirical work, or why Aristotelian morality does so well at spot #3. But that day is not today, because,
Livy, History of Rome.
Haidt, J., & Graham, J. (2009). Planet of the Durkheimians, where community, authority, and sacredness are foundations of morality. Social and psychological bases of ideology and system justification, 371-401.
Graham, J., Englander, Z., Morris, J., Hawkins, C. B., Haidt, J., & Nosek, B. A. (2012). Warning bell: Liberals implicitly respond to group morality before rejecting it explicitly. Available at SSRN 2071499.
https://philpapers.org/rec/MAYMPF
May, Joshua. “Moral Progress for Better Apes,” 2023. is a review of a title I feel I have to get hold of now,
Kumar, V., & Campbell, R. (2022). A Better Ape: The Evolution of the Moral Mind and How it Made Us Human. Oxford University Press.
I must be mixing my frames too readily. This is why I feel more punctuation might be better BTW. quotes and parentheses might not be enough.…
Kant's (begins in a place) which is an outcome of evolutionary processes but is not aware of it as such (this describes all of us at some point and many cultures) (He is probably the worst example for this discussion but here we go). Where "Kant starts with" on his terms is beyond my expertise.
What we get in common from our evolutionary past is an urge or drive or instinct to world, one of the products of this living engagement is to should or moralise. I would argue Kant takes these secondary or derivative products assumes them as primary.
I argue it is backwards (un-informed) in terms (or frames)of what our evolutionary history provides. There is no system here per se. My position here is very similar I discovered in about December 2022 to neo-Pyrrhonist positions.
And that there isn't much to this provisioning except we benefit in survival by shoulding (socially) in and about our worlds, compared to populations who do not do "shoulding", much the way hunger gets us fed as individuals, but in regards to our social niche constructions and umwelts thereof. Hunger makes a good sauce but besides informing preferences (or taste) provides no recipes, recipes are an outcome. Kant starts with a menu of recipes...
I do not argue that this backward in terms of the way we should do it, that a) would be moralising just the same so, b) do not argue about what a good system would/should look like with a more correct better 'system'.
i do argue we should be aware of what we do, in the worldly hope that we would world better. We should world better. How? Not so sure yet. But I feel I now know why we should (all puns intended) and this comes from reading ideas about the palaeolithic egalitarian revolution in various Homo sp (if not all great apes to some degree).
If the self is a delusion then so is the world, we carry on regardless dong the both of them.
I was raised catholic but this was more lapsed identitarian-Irish rebels in Australia (I've a relative who was part of the Rockite Rebellionin 1820 and transported as a convict to NSW, I am descended from a younger brother of his), and my recent posts on Catholicism are a surprise to me, but then this obedience thing was a surprise when I learned that Fideism is a heresy from the POV of Catholics & Orthodox christianity. It blew my tiny brain. The dominance of evangelical devoteeist forms of Christianity (both as a joke and as a political force) in the public sphere (nearly typed MSM) hid this from me. Fideism is as bad as worshipping satan, apparently...
The closest we get to platonic forms is when we read Neal Stephenson's Anathem.