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Tove K's avatar

Since I'm a slow writer I can't come up with something more elaborate until later. However, I'm happy of having been promoted from 60 percent right to 70 percent right, although as far as I remember I was never convinced of the creativity-madness link to begin with. The only thing I firmly believe in is a link between some mental illness and something-positive. For example, there should be a link between mental illness, or borderline mental illness, and religion.

Obviously, a lot of mental illness is of the accidental type. Just think of Down syndrome. No one tries to link Down syndrom to any positive traits, because we know the reason why it exists. As you acknowledge, a lot of mental illness should be of that kind, but caused by more complicated mechanisms that are not entirely known.

I have never been the most eager proponent of the idea that outright psychosis is linked to creativity (in relatives or otherwise). But I am an eager proponent of the idea that there are upsides to lighter versions of mental illness. There is no sharp limit between sanity and mental illness - it can be summarized as human variation. I'm convinced that some of that variation has been adaptive.

I will return to the autism question later (we have valuable daylight here right now), but my thinking in the area is more informed these days, in no small part thanks to you.

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meika loofs samorzewski's avatar

thanks for this in depth post, the creativity-madness index has been an interest of mine since forever

① I've noted the lack of healthy creativity in the absolutely bonkers for quite some time and been suspicious since my teenage years too, of the creativity-madness index. ( you don't have to be mad...) Mad peeps when mad are not very high on openness I'd guess, that's what I found, both weird ideas and very straight ideas held very fixedly. That linkage makes sense to me. It might be openness that 'disciplines' creativity into utility (we can argue a lot about that utility but if we define it negatively as not absolutely bonkers...?)

②the other thought regarding the framing of the madness-creativity index is that it makes sense if you are square as 'they' (the creative & mad) are all to the right of you on that graph.

Also, on masking, it takes a certain amount of improvisational creativity, at least the more successful versions of it do.

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