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Harekud's avatar

Can you explain why you care about your own happiness? I am a moral agnostic and do not aim for happiness because of my belief. Because as a moral agnostic I do not know what is the best state for a human to be in. If I did then this would be the best state for all humans, so it is good to help other people get this state and then I would have morals. It is arbitrary to choose to aim for happiness rather then suffering or beauty or whatever.

I understand that it is human nature to care about personal happiness, I myself care a little about it which I rationalise as useful as if I got depressed I would be less productive. Why are you following human nature though? If you think that their is no greater goals to be had from a moral agnostic perspective instead of just trying to be happy then I am a living example that you are wrong.

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Anders L's avatar

Some time has passed since you wrote this article but I must admit that I am still thinking about it. Which is not necessarily a good thing. I find parts of it quite problematic.

Not the philosophical parts, I mostly skimmed through those. Philosophy is not really my thing. No, I am talking about the important parts, the apple pie parts.

Firstly I am confused and even a bit distraught about all this talk of crab apples. To a European audience (a British one at least) crab apples are Malus sylvestris. In Sweden they are generally known as "wild apples". They are hardly edible, being hard as rock and very sour. Although I suppose you could force them down by baking them and adding lots of sugar. However, I do not see how one can bake a decent apple pie with that kind of raw material so I sincerely hope American crab apples are something entirely different.

Then there is the problematic detail with the crust, or rather the absence of a serious discussion about crust. I do not pretend to be an apple pie expert, but despite my amateurism we use at least three or four types of apple pie crusts in our woody Eden: Swedish crust (with oats), French crust (with eggs, this is more of a tarte than a pie), store bought puff pastry crust (only when it is on sale) and Tove's crust which is a bastardization of a French marzipan crust which I tried out once and discarded but she keeps on making when no one is supervising her.

Finally there is the question of the accessories. It might be an indication of European snobbery, but I generally prefer custard sauce (crème anglaise) to our apple pies. Plain vanilla ice cream is also acceptable. Whipped cream is only really appropriate if you have a very sweet pie crust like the above-mentioned marzipan crust.

After this rant I might come through as excessively focused on apple pies. Not being of a philosophical bent I have more limited ways to happiness than you do, apple pie being one of them. I hope you would agree that the road to a good life is lined with good apple pies. Which is all the more reason not to scamp on your pies.

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